How Justin Created Clarity + Focus + Inner Peace + Confidence with the Guidance of Peak ProsperJun 19, 2021
𝐈𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐌𝐢𝐤𝐞 𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰𝐬 𝐉𝐮𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐧 𝐚𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐞𝐱𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐫𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐏𝐞𝐚𝐤 𝐏𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐩𝐞𝐫 𝐌𝐞𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐝 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐡𝐨𝐰 𝐡𝐞 𝐰𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐮𝐧𝐜𝐞𝐫𝐭𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐲, 𝐬𝐞𝐥𝐟 𝐬𝐚𝐛𝐨𝐭𝐚𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐬, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐨𝐥𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐥𝐢𝐟𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐛𝐞𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐚 𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐰𝐡𝐨 𝐢𝐬 𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐯𝐞, 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐟𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐧𝐭, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐩𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐞𝐟𝐮𝐥.
- Went from his problems controlling his life to being able to confidently handle what the world throws at him.
- Feels comfortable being vulnerable and engaging in difficult conversations.
- Switched from anxiety and stress first thing in the morning to having a thriving morning routine - and loving it.
- Overcame the painful stories from his past and improved his relationships with his girlfriend, friends, and family.
- Eliminated the negative self talk that was eroding his self worth.
- Lives life in a peaceful state where he is not constantly putting pressure on himself.
“𝐼’𝑚 𝑔𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑠𝑒 𝑡𝑜𝑜𝑙𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑠𝑜𝑙𝑢𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑏𝑒 𝑎 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑚𝑎𝑛 𝑢𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑙 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝐼 𝑑𝑖𝑒.” - 𝐽𝑢𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑛 𝑆
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All right. Happy days, Mike Morelli here with Justin Schaeffer, Justin, stoked, absolutely stoked to record this with you, man, and this client experience video. Justin is going to be talking about how he went from filled with uncertainty, self-doubt, trying to just navigate these negative self sabotaging thoughts. So now he's confident and he's fulfilled and he's got clarity of thought moving forward. Justin, introduce yourself, man.
Yeah, no, I'd be happy to. What's up? What's up, everybody? My name is Justin, as Mike was telling you a little bit just now before I started working with Mike, you know, I had a tough time. I really had a tough time. And it's it's funny the the day that he reached out and we kind of cherish the relationship from the beginning. I had bought a book that day that was a workbook that's set in. The title of it is How to Be Happy, because I was so it seems like this is a never ending cycle of disappointment, self-doubt, uncertainty. What my next move is, is that next move going to make me happy? I was so focused on just being happy that I didn't realize certain things have to go into being happy when we started working together.
That's that's that's a great intro. It's like I had just bought in the book How to Be Happy, and we'll talk definitely more about the happiness thing that our societies definitely were really super focused on. But like before our first conversation, you know, you mentioned that briefly vulnerable, like what was going on in your life at the time.
Yeah, no great question. So. Before you had reached out, I had no one, I had lost my job, which at the time I really was happy with and focused on motivating myself to continue to rise in that position. And that was a career coach and a graduate assistant over at SUNY Albany. When I lost that job due to the pandemic, I was kind of forced on my feet to figure something out. You know, I'm getting older. I put pressure on myself to really just have something in my pocket that would hopefully transition into certainty, happiness and confidence again. And that's where I was really focusing. A lot of my efforts is on those things. So I decided to take a job with Northwestern Mutual and it was a commission only job. And the recruiter had talked me up to the whole company, instilled confidence in me. And then I was at that job and I absolutely hated it. It was it was really hard. It was not aligned with my interests or my purpose at all. So I decided to leave that company and I got absolutely annihilated for it. I thought that my exit strategy was appropriate and professional, but they were super upset with me. They said I let the company down, I let the organization down. I did all these things. So not too short. After that, I fell into a really, really dark place to the point where I was just about damaging relationships with people because I wasn't being honest with myself, with how I felt. And instead I was pushing it down a way. And that's right about the time that I had commented on one of your posts and you reached out and we really started a relationship together.
Yeah, that's thank you for sharing it, like at that time when we had that, like we had a short call and we had a longer call, you know, like when you were going through a lot of that stuff, just like your relationships were getting affected, like what was it like waking up in the morning, like when you'd open your eyes and, like, go about your day, like like what were you trying to navigate? Like, what's the first thought that's popping in your head?
Yeah, no, that's a great question. At that time, you know, a good day was a productive day, right, so I was so focused on productivity and when that when that didn't happen, you know, in my own definition of productivity at the time was, you know, applying to a job or cleaning the house or running errands or anything like that, I felt as if that was where my head was at as soon as I woke up, and that immediately created this immense stress that I was putting on myself. So to answer your question, my heart would be racing as soon as I open my eyes because I was already stressed and anxious and just so just spiraling in this direction in the morning to start the day. And as you know, that's the most important part of your day, is how you start it and what mindset you have going into it. So, you know, I was super uncomfortable with that and I really didn't know how to get out of it. And I was just I honestly had told myself, I'm like, well, this is how you're going to start your days for now, I guess. And it was just it was it was a moment of self reflection saying, like, dude, you're not doing it right. You don't have strategies in your life to really allow you to feel a certain way and start your day in a way that you like. So, yeah, to answer your questions, I would wake up and my heart would be pounding. No joke with just because of anxiety and stress. Immediately I started the day.
How is all of that just affecting your relationships and your work and like even the life that you wanted to lead moving forward?
Yeah, it affected it greatly. And during this time, I had also told myself that I wanted to start a business because it's been on my mind for years. I mean, I went to Oswego for that purpose. I want to be a personal trainer with the hopes of running my own gym someday. So that entrepreneurial spirit was always there. So it affected my work in regards to that. Right. So my uncertainty was leading me to say, oh, nobody is going to look at your posts. Nobody's going to take the time to really, you know, understand what you're trying to say. Nobody's going to get any value out of it. You're stupid. You don't know anything. You know you you don't have enough training. You don't have enough experience like all this garbage that was just just flooding my head and creating such a negative image of myself. I mean, I literally could not look myself in the mirror. I shaved in the shower and brush my teeth in the shower for a good three, four months after the summer was over and it was just this off. It was really hard. So long story short, to answer your question, my relationships were damaged because I wasn't communicating my feelings with my friends or my family. And they clearly knew that something was wrong because I'm pretty good at wearing my emotions on my face. So that aspect was detrimental. My work was affected because of all that fogginess and negativity in my head. And it was it was actually not allowing me to just take a step forward and make a little bit of progress in any direction. Really. I would just not do anything. I would just keep pushing it off. And honestly, it affected the way that I carried myself and it really instilled like this negative confidence, you know, this like, oh, you suck, whatever. Like all this negativity. And now, you know, it's those things are completely managed and they still happen. But it's not as aggressive as it used to be, which is truthfully amazing.
Yeah, this is like the key point in all personal development that I hope everyone understands right now. It's not that I, I mean, I go through self-doubt. I go through some anxiety and stress, but it doesn't control my life. Right. And that's the point that we want to get to. It's like, you know, we've been sold the idea in personal development that if we get to some level that all of our problems are going to magically go away. And that's not real life. Like you still go through those things, but now you have the tools, mindset and strategies in place to handle them. And also you have the awareness to know where they come from. It's not like this like mysterious force that's against you.
Right. And that's I really like the way you said that. You know, you have the tools to find out kind of where they come from, where they originate and how they originate. That's so truthful. You know, one of the things that you shared with me over eight weeks that I truthfully use every single day as a positive. Is just one word switch, and that is instead of saying, I got to do these things today, you know, I have to do these things today, I, I need to do these things today. A simple switch would say I get to do these things today. I'm happy to do these things today. You know, even if there are things that you don't love. But it's just it's so simple. It's so simple. So important.
What was some of the other like, you know, some of the other work that we had done together? I mean, we did some some pretty some pretty solid work together for sure. And I'm curious as to like what was one of the more transformative things that we had done. It could have been like, you know, one of the implemented resources or whatever. What was one of the ones that stood out to you?
This is like like asking me what my favorite food is for gas. If it was all amazing, every single and I'm not just blowing smoke up, you know, up there, it's this is information and strategies that really resonate with me. And I hope that anybody who's listening feels the same way. And if you are definitely have a conversation with Mike. Anyway, one thing that was super, super helpful, two things. The first one was the biases and judgments. Yeah. Oh, my God. Like unbelievable understanding. Like why we have and feel certain ways about people and experiences in the world in general. I'm sorry I lied. I said two things. I would say three things.
It share it all. I don't care.
The second thing was three weaknesses in three people. I'll never forget doing that activity because I texted, you know, five or six of my closest friends and family and I said, hey, you know, I'd really love to have a conversation with you to kind of divulge what some of my strongest weaknesses are. And I'll never forget a text message I got from one of my buddies. And he's like, wow, that's a crappy way to have a conversation. But I'm all in man. You know, that's if it's going to help you and if it's going to allow you to become more aware of why you do certain things and why you may focus on one thing versus the other in regards to strengths and weaknesses, then I'm all in. And the reception that I got from that was incredible. I mean, they had shared some things with me that I had no idea of. And you don't know that until you ask somebody about it, as it's so hard for us to really assess ourselves when all we got going on in here is spiraling. So that was the second thing. The third thing and probably the most prominent experience or memorable was the path to peace. It was.
That's kudos to Scott, my coach, who collaborating with now. But that's all. Kudos to him. But keep going. Sorry.
Yeah, thank. Well, thank you, Scott. If you're watching him. Thank you. Because it was truly transformative, because it allowed me to seriously take the effort to evaluate the experiences in my life that have contributed to why I engage in certain activities or react in certain ways and have opinions on certain people. And that, to me, is just incredibly enlightening. I mean, there were things that were underlying in my my world and my experiences. That I was projecting onto other people that I was not aware of as to why and how, and that's something to me that just just kicked my ass. It did. I mean, and I remember coming to you, Mike, and and we were fortunate enough to have in-person sessions. So it was great. But I just remember feeling so emotional and just getting a little worked up because I hadn't realized that these experiences in my life had really had such a deep effect on my way that I think in the way that I view things, in the way that I act.
Yeah, yeah, that that work specifically is incredibly, you know, powerful and it's, you know, the level of awareness and understanding as to like why you do, why you struggle with the things that you struggle with that is not just like tools, but like literal solutions for it. That's like the biggest drive home point that I would say is like I think a lot of personal development is like surface level tools and hacks, which are good. They're good for certain things. But like when we're talking about really doing like change, like people say, I want to change, I want to be the best version of myself or whatever, will you have to be willing to do that work? Right. And it's like think about that, like biases and judgments, three people, three weaknesses, path to peace. What did that do for your self-worth?
You're crushing it, it it. Oh, well, I can tell you one thing that I do right now as a result of those activities. I wake up every single morning, go right into the bathroom, and my hair's all disheveled and I look like I'm waking up and. I go into the mirror and I say, Justin, you are doing everything that you can and you're working hard and I value you for that. I'm not quite at the point where I say I love you yet, but I'm working towards that. And I feel more comfortable with just looking at myself and saying, you're working hard. You are. I've never been able to do that ever. It was always you're not working hard enough. You could be doing more. You're a shit stain, all these things. And we have we've had conversations in the past where I used to receive compliments growing up from parents, from family members, from friends. I used to take those compliments and not say thank you, but say you're not doing enough to get a better compliment. Yeah, yep. And I wasn't able to accept it. And that was really I never understood why, even as a young kid, as a 10 year old, I'd make 30 free throws in a row on the basketball court. My mom would say, holy moly, Justin, you're pretty good at this. And I'd be like, no, I'm not mom, there's guys on the team who can who can make 50 in a row, the coach showed us yesterday that we need to be shooting 100 hundred of these a day, that I'm only doing 30. And I would just get so just I just hit myself in the heart, like everywhere, and it's it's one of those experiences that really provides that awareness level team understanding why that.
Yeah, this is the I think that's like the biggest thing amongst, like high achievers, high performers, guys who are like leaders. If that's one of you watching this video right now and you struggle with that with the disappointment, dissatisfaction, lack of fulfillment in life, it's not going to come from working harder like that is the biggest drive home point, right? It's like, OK, like you can do more and you can strive for more. And we're not saying that. But if you think that working harder and like setting higher goals is going to make you truly, like at peace in life, it's not going to. So a question is why why did you decide to start working with me? What was the reason for that?
So when you reached out to me and said, hey, you know, I'd love to have a conversation, just kind of discuss ideas and see where you're at. I had no problem saying yes because I knew the work that you did and I knew that I needed it truthfully. And that's why I agreed to have that conversation, was because I was looking at myself saying something needs to change, something needs to change. You need to put more of an effort into yourself than you ever have in order to get yourself at least crawling out of this, you know, making steps to get out of it. So one of the reasons why I wanted to work with you is because I saw a lot of myself in you. And I know that we can resonate with that and connect and just based off of our our sessions that we've had together. I mean, we just we went off on tangents. We talked about all these different things, not just focused on self-improvement and getting better, but you allowed me to open up and be myself. And that's something that's truly important to me in any format of life. I don't feel as if we should be absolutely restricted to being vulnerable and transparent with people at the same time. And that's something that you did just a phenomenal job of my friend. And, you know, I can confidently sit here and say that you'll be a lifelong friends, not just somebody that I worked with seriously, totally,
Totally resonate with when this is an interesting thing. When we were talking about, you know, working together and we had that longer call and I said, hey, this is a great fit, I'm going to make you an offer to work with me. And then we were we had you had some objections about price in the investment. What would you say about that whole experience?
Yeah, knocking it out of the park, man, seriously? Well, I'll tell you that, you know, I've never invested in myself away from education because that's all we've ever been taught to do. Right? You go to school, you get good grades, you go to college, that's it. Then then you start working and then your life has started. Right. So anything away from education with as high a price point as that is? I've never valued anything away from that above like two hundred dollars, seriously. So when you when you first came across with the price, I was like, no way. As you said, like, objection wise. I don't think that I'm worth this amount of money. You know, I don't think that you are worth that amount of money, like instantly like my my rational side of my brain clicked in and said no frequently. And even after I had agreed to work with you, I had expressed some severe anxiety as a result of how am I going to do this? How am I going to make financial situations work now? And I truly was just not believing in myself or the process that I had signed up for. And I was I was so negatively inflicted in the beginning for making this decision. But within the work that we did and the true ability for you to give me the resources to have me skyrocket, literally. The investment was incredibly worth it, and I go back on it and I and I look at how I was feeling back then and I maybe even sometimes experience some of those similar anxieties.
But it's so easy for me to push them away and say this is going to help you for the rest of your life. This is a small investment in the grand scheme of things. It's tiny, tiny. And for me to sit back on these last eight weeks and say, oh, it's over, you know, I go right back. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I'm going to use these skills that I've learned in these tools and abilities that we've discussed every single day until the day that I die. And it will make me a better person. It will make me feel more confident and it will allow me. To feel good about what I'm doing and that is all kudos to you and for you allowing yourself to work with me. So to answer your question, the monetary investment was scary as hell at first. Sure. But it is incredibly worth it. And I would recommend it to anybody who feels similar ways, truthfully. Another thing, too, like. And kudos to your business as well. You're incredibly organized. I mean, you do things in such a methodical way to make sure that you're that people who invest with you are getting their money's worth. And I think there's there's nothing more valuable with that, especially in entrepreneurship. So. Yeah. Yeah.
What what results do you feel like you've experienced just through the transformational course, what like what would you share would be like some of the bigger kind of results there? And how have they had an impact on your personal life, on your financial financial situation and your relationships?
Yeah. So one of the things that that stuck out to me was was being aware of of the, you know, the negativities and all these experiences that I've had in the past and having difficult conversations with those people or those situations, really being able to be vulnerable, allow myself to feel emotion, you know, not put as much pressure on myself, has truthfully transformed my own experiences. For example, I'll give you a classic example. One of my employment positions that I work in currently is over at a country club, local country club. And this guy in the bar, one of the workers, was getting frustrated because somebody had called him a racial slur. And I said to him, I said, listen, I want you to hear me out just for a second. And I remember sharing this with you as well. I said, listen. The only reason he chose to say that to you. Is because he is projecting his own experiences and his reality onto you. It is nothing that you have done directly. Nothing you might have just set off the bomb, you know, it might have been just the cherry on top for his own life and his own experiences, and he decided to take it out on you out of emotion. So what I advise for you to do, because then this guy who had taken in this racial slur was all fired up. He was freakin pissed. And unfortunately, I was there when it happened. So I kind of had to talk him off a ledge a little bit. And if it wasn't for yours and I's experience leading up to that, you know, situation that I was in, I would not have been able to confidently and coherently say that to him and not and believe in it as well. There's a difference between understanding something and believing in it. Truthfully, there is, man, it's do you know, deep difference? Yeah, yeah, and I resonate with that. And I would not have said that to him if I didn't believe it. And I didn't instill it in myself as to why certain things happen.
Yeah, there's a huge difference between knowledge and understanding, and most people say, I know, I know that because I you heard about it or you read about it, but there's a difference between understanding which is actually living it and seeing it in full living color and seeing how it works or the patterns of your life. Yeah. So totally. And that's that goes for anything. So, yeah, I feel like you definitely have. I mean, your transformation lasts throughout this course has been unreal. Right. It's been spent. I mean this is to sit here today and just have you tell your story is. Is amazing, it really is, and you have absolutely so like a big thing, just as like we we a lot of times we have this, like, fear of change, right? You've changed significantly, but you're the same guy. You still got the same girlfriend, like, you know what I mean? Like, so we have this fear of change that like if we do change that, we're going to be this a totally different person, like we're going to lose all of our friends. What would you say about your relationship with your girlfriend and the relationship with your parents and your relationship with your friends and relationships with other people as a leader? Have they improved or they've got have they gotten worse?
They drastically improved. Yeah. And I'm going to relate to that strictly based on difficult conversations. Right. In the past, before we started working together, I would shy away from those difficult conversations because I was fearful of the receiving end. I was fearful of what those people and how those people were going to react and what they were going to say to me. And I was worried that I wouldn't have a rebuttal or I wouldn't be able to have an explanation as to why I feel that certain way, or they would make me feel stupid for feeling that way. But since we've worked together, all of those thoughts that I've had in my head are completely bullshit. They are I mean, I had a very difficult conversation with somebody who's really, really close to me being my father. And it was it was so hard and it was there was a lot of emotion, but it was one of the most important things I've ever done in my life. And at the end of it, he said thank you. He said thank you for allowing me to share my side of the story and how it's affected everybody, including you. Well. I mean, I'm getting I'm getting goosebumps just thinking about, you know, like saying I truthfully like and Mike knows as well as anybody else who follows Mike who knows me really well.
My family is very close. I stay very closely connected with my father, my brother, my mother and my friends in particular and my girlfriend. You know, I'm I'm very relationship oriented, very relationship oriented individual. So when I say that and then say I was so fearful of the receiving end of the conversation, well, am I a relationship oriented person? You know, I'm not too sure. But, you know, I don't say that to create any uncertainty. But I say that because if I'm truly a relationship oriented person, I will be confident in the goods and the bads of any situation that may become possible within those relationships. And instead of just focusing on really, really good things all of the time, which no offense, is incredibly unrealistic, you know, I was able to dive into the uncertainty and the fear and things that didn't allow me to have those conversations in the past. So and I know these answers are long winded, but I'm clearly passionate about this stuff and I believe in it. And it's it's it's inspiring, truthfully.
Cheers, you've done the work, the. Big thing that I see a lot of guys, like a lot of the guys that we work with, are like driven, they're motivated, they want to be the best versions of themselves. They're like typically leaders. They want to help other people. They're adventurous. They love the outdoors. Right. They love they love exercising. They value these things. Right. And the big thing that I see, the big downfall with guys like this is because I put my hand up because I was this guy. But like, we want to change. We want to be someone else. We want to be someone that we're proud of. So we think that, you know, we have an opportunity like, for example, if you had said no to me. Right, like, no, no, I'm good. I'm just going to keep doing what I've always done. And just like, how does he some time I think about it. Right. And I need to, like, just I just need to double down and, like, get a clear head and then I'll figure it out. Like, I feel like I've done that so much of my past, and if you had done that, where do you think you would be right now?
That's a tough question. It's a good one again, but it's tough because, you know, I'm not somebody who can predict the future or predict an outcome that may have happened if I decided to not make a certain decision. But with that being said. I never would have had those difficult conversations with people, I think it would have kept contributing to the toxicity of the downsides of my relationships. I'll give you a clear example. My girlfriend, who I love so much and would do anything for in this world. She you know, her and I can kind of get at each other pretty easily. And I remember sharing this with you as well, Mike, about halfway through our sessions, we were freaking pissed at each other one day yelling, screaming, you know, all these things. And it happened when we were working together like it was in the middle of our sessions.
It was like the fourth or fifth, fifth one.
Yeah, yeah, so the old me would have stormed out the door, slam the door and been mad for a week or not talked to her for a week because I was going to be I would have been so in my own head trying to synthesize everything and then produced an outcome within my own head as to how to handle the situation when truthfully probably wouldn't be the most appropriate way to handle the situation, because it's only in here. It's only in my head. So instead of doing that, I stopped at her front door, I literally had my hand on the freakin handle to leave. I stopped what I was doing, I took a breath. And I refocused my energy to freakin figure it out, right, that there. That was one of the best decisions that I've ever made in our relationship to this thing, because now when conflict arises. We talk about it in that moment or we say, OK, we both got a ton going on right now, let's dive into this on Saturday morning when we have a cup of coffee and we're nice and relaxed. And now we have weekly conversations with each other talking about the things that may have bothered us or annoyed us or kind of contributed to some sadness every single week. And it's and it's truly transformative. I mean, we go day to day, you know, just feeling good about things in the way that we experience life, in the way that we enjoy each other's company. And the reason why I share that example is because there is so much negativity in that relationship with her in the past to the point where it would frustrate me and make me want to leave, even though I knew how I felt about her, which was very strongly so. You know, I don't even remember where we started with it.
But the question is essentially like people who think that they will change their situation by doing the same thing over and over.
Yeah. And you can't you can't do that. It's a never ending cycle, in my opinion. And you have to feel uncomfortable with the decision of wanting to change that or being uncomfortable or being comfortable with the fear of doing that. Yeah, and that's not just I'm going to do it. That's I need to work myself up to it. I need to tell myself and reaffirm and believe in the process, you know, and again, that's not for everybody. But if you allow yourself to make that choice, you're going to feel free, like if you feel lifted and like it's really hard to describe and truthfully. But I, I feel great truthfully.
Interpeace Yeah. Peace with, like, who you truly are. You're right. That's where confidence and self-worth comes from. That's this is not about being a perfect person. Right. Like this isn't about being a Joan of Arc. This is literally just about acknowledging your shortcomings and then acting to improve upon them and doing that. Right. That's the true way to handle insecurity and anxiety and lack of confidence and self-doubt also, not to mention some extensive thought work and then working through some of our past experiences as well. But that's that's the end. The end result is peace and confidence and full potential, in my opinion. I mean, you're literally you're living proof of it and in, what, 60 days?
Yeah, that's another thing, too. When I first bought it and I was like, yeah, it's not a lot of time, but here I am sitting here and feeling good. I got a tingling sensation in my body just from having this conversation. And that doesn't that used to not happen, man. Know, I wake up now and I freaking kick ass as soon as I'm out of bed feeling like I'm not just saying that to say it, to reaffirm the relationship with you that I found. I'm saying it because I mean and you know, I, I was watching this Sean's testimony last week and he had said something that his entire morning routine had changed and so has mine. Maybe not physically changed mentally, though, it has completely switched it. And I'm now making breakfast at four o'clock in the morning, sometimes before work. The thought of doing that eight weeks ago. Forget about it. Yeah, forget about it. Yeah. So I just I feel good, man. I prioritize myself. I prioritize what I need in order to feel fulfilled during the day or at least give myself that energy. And I've always wanted to do that, but I've never actually done it. And I figured that with time it would kind of change and evolve and it would just happen naturally.
Not the case. So so just like as a totally honest question here, do you feel that you've gotten your return on investment?
I would invest in this experience probably five or six more times again. Great, I'm not I'm not kidding, man, and you know. If it wasn't, you would probably be somebody else, and I had told you in the past that I've worked with a life coach before, but you are somebody who's incredibly relatable. Our values align. Our motivations are very similar. We both want the best versions of ourselves, the. And I think that's where it really came into play, and I got to be honest with you, I'm super excited to continue to see what you're going to be doing with this journey, because it's helped me and I know that it's helped a bunch of other people tremendously. I cannot say that enough, truthfully.
Thank you, man. The two more questions for you. The second the second to last one is, well, the first of two is going to be, you know, why should anyone who's watching this right now, like like we're talking about a guy who's driven, motivated to be the best version of himself, really relating with your story right now, really being like, holy shit, I feel like I, I was going through exact I am going through what Justin was going through. Why should that guy right now who maybe even like distrusting himself in this very moment, why should he take action instead of like waiting for like like I'll do it next week or like I'll do it next month once I figure some stuff out.
It's not going to happen on your own. It's not it's not going to happen. Just by saying it'll happen eventually, yeah, it won't. I am living proof of that, I graduated college three years ago. I thought it was going to happen the day I left campus. It didn't I thought it was going to happen when I chose a new opportunity, that it was super passionate about, it did, and it helped put a Band-Aid on it, but it still was there. It was still there. And I don't want to say, like, don't believe in yourself for trying to change on your own. No, that's not it. That's not it. If you truly believe and resonate with yourself that you will change on your own, then that's great. But I knew myself that it wasn't going to happen. It wasn't so that extra push on that accountability for me was so important. And Mike basically put a spark under my ass and said, hey, dude, you got a great idea here. You are a great person. You're confident all these things just start telling yourself that. And that's not the entire investment. But he really allowed me to believe in myself at a moment when I knew that I could truthfully. And that's that's really where if people who are listening to this right now feel that way, it's important to at least have a conversation exposing those fears and those feelings to everything.
The night just to bounce off what Justin said here. This is not like you looking yourself in the mirror and saying, like, I am happy, I am confident, I am strong, like, because your mind is just going to say bullshit. But but it's there is a lot of power in our thoughts and like what we believe is our reality. So, like, you know, part of the things that that I say, like self talk, is self talk. I do it every day and I don't I don't like say things like I am happy or anything like that. But I'll talk about, like, you know, I am I am working hard every day to, like, grow this business to help thousands of men. Right. I am working every day on I'm on improving myself. That's not a lie. I do it every day. Right. Or like, you know, when I go through self-doubt or hard times, which invariably I do, I'm human like anyone else. But I say, that's OK. I've been there before. Oh, this self-doubt that I'm experiencing right now, this is just like all the other self-doubt that I've had in my past and I'm going to get through it. I know that I can get through this. I will get through this. And it's just so like, you know, it's more of like reaffirming things that you're working on.
So if, like, you're a guy right now who's struggling with negative self-image, don't just look at yourself and say, I am happy with myself because your mind is going to say bullshit. No, you're not. Say I am putting in the work today to improve myself one percent and just take that and just go with it and start like sometimes the best things that you're going to hear about you are the things that you say to you. I heard that from Les Brown, but it was like that is really powerful. So I just appreciate your story. I like to be honest with you, man. Like, very inspiring. Very inspiring. And I just want to say that as much as you said thank you to me, I have to say it's all you, man, because you did the work. You you literally put in the work. You were willing to say, yes. You were really willing to make an investment. You were willing to handle the uncomfortable and hard decisions. Right. But on the opposite end of that, you found what you're looking for. And I have ultimate respect for you. I'm happy to call you a brother and a friend now for sure. So I just seriously, man, thank you so much for the trust and. For the process, right?
Yeah, I know that the trust thing is a big thing as well, because to make an investment like that, you've got to trust somebody and truthfully so. And I thought you did a great job of that. And one thing, too, that I'll say that you do really, really well is you know how to provide value for people. Sure, you could you know how to really just say, what are you doing? You know, like what's going on, you know, and. There's a there's a select few people out there who have a true ability to, you know, really instill value into somebody, especially if you don't have a great relationship with them beforehand. You know, we knew each other through people, through family, friends, you know, whatever we knew of each other. But for you to sit down and say, Justin, here's what you're going through right now. Here's how you can here's how it'll look once we're done working to help you through in everything for me right there. And it was almost difficult to say no truthful. So you're I'll say it again and kudos to you for bringing so much value and just keep grinding and like, seriously, it's awesome. I love it. And I cannot wait to see where you are seven, six, five months from now. Other way around,
I was going to I was really hoping you were going to say years.
Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I only use mine because you did that for me two,
Three to six months timelines. I'm a big fan of that. Right. Seven years from now, dude mean you are going to be like on an island in Fiji sipping coconuts and. Right away about something like that. So where can people find you, because if you're also a guy who's, you know, potentially looking to find a job, you're struggling in that department. Justin's your man. So, Justin, where can where can people find you and get connected with you?
Yeah, no, I appreciate that big time.
Justin's an incredibly high integrity guy. He is insane amount of life experience. So, yeah. I just wanted to put you on display here. Where can people find find you?
I appreciate that. And one of my motivations in this life is helping people as well and bringing value to your life, just like Mike does. Just in a little bit of a fashion tip, you can find me on Instagram. The name of the handle is just in case, career consulting. And you can also connect with me on LinkedIn just by searching my first and last name, Justin SHC. Firestar, feel free to shoot me a message. Be like, hey, you know, I'd love to have a conversation. Let's bounce ideas off each other. Anything in regards to that. Feel free to reach out, guys. I'm here for you guys and I'm also here for me to learn from you. So feel free to shoot me a message and we'll get connected.
Yeah, Justin truly lives the ethos of helping people, and I will say I will say that for sure.
I love it, man. I wouldn't do what I do if it wasn't for the love of helping people.
Dude, a super, super appreciate this, just the opportunity to share your story. It's inspiring and it's something that you really will be able to look back on for a long for for a long time. And that's. That's huge, man, so I just thank you so much for sharing it. I know that this is going to be beneficial for at least one person today. So thank you, man.
Yeah, any time. And thank you again. Seriously, you know, I'm sure people are sick of me hearing or hearing me say thank you and like, you're the best and stuff. But again, I believe in you and I believe that your method works incredibly well. So anybody who's listening, you know, just keep that in mind truthfully. And I had my doubts big time, so.
Right. I'm appreciate you, brother. All right, man. Peace.